“The world is deep; deeper than day can comprehend.”

— Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Deeper Than Day is a conversation born out of our common love for depth psychology and archetypal astrology.

Astrology is the language of the stars, as psychology is the language of the psyche. Logos, the Word, gives breath to all things, making meaningful the utterance of the cosmos in the patterns of the heavenly bodies, as the utterance of the psyche comes in symptom, feeling, image, and is made meaningful by our attempt to translate our deepest human experience into language.  We invite you to join us in our ongoing dialogue as we explore the phenomenological correlations between cosmos and psyche.

In this podcast, we illuminate the depths of psyche using the light of the stars. Exploring these mysteries can presence us more and more deeply to the archetypal dimension that exists all around us and within us. By working with the living symbols that astrology allows us to see clearly, we bring into the light of day the matters of the unconscious that are “deeper than day can comprehend.” As Carl Jung said, “One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the Shadow conscious.” We believe that the integration of astrology and depth psychology helps us do this deep shadow work on both a personal and a collective level.

Delia and Jessica met through a shared love of archetypal astrology as taught by Richard Tarnas. After meeting in his class, Psyche and Cosmos, offered at the California Institute of Integral Studies in 2009, we began an ongoing conversation in which we now invite you to participate. Delia, who received her Master’s degree in Integral Counseling Psychology from CIIS where she began her studies with Tarnas in 1995,  has been in private practice as a licensed psychotherapist in San Francisco since 2001, and Jessica, a professional astrologer since 2007 who received her Master’s degree in depth psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute and is practicing psychotherapist, spend as much time as possible discussing the things we are most passionate about: our shared desire to develop what James Hillman called “the archetypal eye,” using the practice of unfolding the relationships between the planets at the moment of birth and the ways we know ourselves as psychological beings. We synthesize these ways of seeing both in a practical embodied way and also in our common vocation, a calling to be of service to humanity in our deep love of the cosmos.

What drew us together was the shared worldview of archetypal cosmology and depth psychology, which helps us recognize our deep interconnectedness with one another and with the cosmos, and lets us come into meaningful connection with ourselves — intrapsychically, interpersonally and transpersonally.

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